Ben Mandelker's Not Crappy Pearl Barley Salad

Listen now (62 min) | Today's Lunch Therapy patient is my friend Ben Mandelker, the co-host of one of the most popular podcasts out there: WATCH WHAT CRAPPENS, a pod that dissects nearly every detail of every show that airs on Bravo. In today's session, we talk to Ben about Jill Zarin (my favorite Housewife), how Giada DeLaurentis got him into cooking, the link between eating crappy food and watching crappy TV, and putting pepperoni into pasta. We also cover how being gay makes you want to be the golden child, his inability to eat berries or stone fruit, the worst matzah ball soup he ever made, and where we all stand on Alison Roman.

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