Apr 13 • 1HR 4M

A Sommelier and a Tasting Room Manager Walk into a Podcast

Wine Week! with Special Guests Elle Clifford and Mike Stone.

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Hi everyone,

I don’t know about you, but I’m insecure when it comes to wine.

It’s just so overwhelming. What’s the difference between natural wine and regular wine? Why is some super expensive wine not worth it and some cheap wine a great bargain? How do you learn all of the things you’re supposed to learn about mouthfeel and terroir and structure?

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Welcome to Wine Week, my attempt to clear things up for you and me and anyone else confused by wine.

I’ve invited two wine professionals with wine podcasts on to walk me through all of the things that I don’t understand about wine.

Elle Clifford hosts The Wine Situation, a delightful podcast that I once appeared on the day that Elle found out she passed the tests to become a certified sommelier.

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With her expertise and approachability, I ask her all about her obsession with wine, how she affords drinking the good stuff, how she got interested in all of this in the first place, the way she chooses the right words to describe what a wine tastes like, and how she retains so much information about so many different types of wine.

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But first, I invited on Mike Stone of The TallMikeWine Podcast on to talk about his job as a tasting room manager at Nicholson Ranch Winery.

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How do you go from being a DJ to a tasting room manager? Mike has the story (and voice) for you. He also explains what he does every day at his job, how he motivates others in the tasting room to describe the same wines in different ways, and what he’s currently drinking that he recommends.

In terms of what I’ve been drinking lately, as I mention on the podcast, I just bought a case of natural wine from Psychic Wines in L.A. and I’m working my way through it.

Which leads to the question: what wine are you currently drinking? Do you have a staple or do you go through different phases? Let us know in the comments.

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Thanks for listening!

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See you back here on Thursday!

Your friend,